Quoten: Origineel geplaatst door prjz op 30 April 2006
Hallo,
Ik heb op 1 april ook een Look 565 besteld. Hij is er echter nog niet.
Hoelang moest jij wachten?
look 565
Ha ha !! Dat wil je niet weten...! Ik hoop voor je dat je hem inmiddels hebt. Mijn levertijd heeft alle records gebroken. Klote Fransen. Mijn hele voorjaar op mijn oude vertrouwde, gestripte Cannondale cad 3 gereden. De kleur (wit, ja ik hou van poetsen!) Was in eens niet meer te leveren. Sure !
Nu ik een ander Look frame heb (585) moet ik wel zeggen dat ik zeeeeer tevreden ben hoor. Rijdt fantastisch.
Nu ik een ander Look frame heb (585) moet ik wel zeggen dat ik zeeeeer tevreden ben hoor. Rijdt fantastisch.
Wat is nu precies de deal met die Look 565 ? Is ie nou wel of niet leverbaar in NL? Op de veltec site wordt ie gewoon gepromoot. Ik vind het een erg mooi frame en ben wel geinteresseerd. Een dealer vinden in mijn buurt (Leiden) die Look verkoopt valt helaas ook al niet mee.
Wie weet hebben jullie nog tips?
Wie weet hebben jullie nog tips?
Pina Paris FP Carbon
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mikethebike
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Neem eens contact op met Plieger in Meerkerk, die heeft ook genoeg Look frame's in de winkel staan. Volgens deze link zou Veltec dit frame zowel los als compleet in hun programma hebben.
http://www.veltec.nl/DesktopModules/Por ... ant500.jpg
http://www.cbike.com/look_565.htm
The all new LOOK 565 frame is a revolutionary new frame that is a direct descendent of the Award winning 585 frame. This frame has the same tubes, same global shape but the bottom bracket is aluminium. The 565 is both comfortable and very responsive and at an amazing frame weight of just 1200 grams and the fork is the ultra-light HSC5Sl weighing in at an incredible 295grs! Total weight for this frame and fork is just 1495 grams, two colour options are available on this frame white or chrome titanium that is finished in an amazing long weave finish.
Adviesprijs van 1999€, al gezien voor 1399€
TESTED: Look 565By Guy Andrews
In 1985 Look invented and developed the first useful step-in-step-out pedal system. Clipless pedals (because they were without toe clips) were a massive leap forward and Look's ingenuity really put them on the map as a cycling manufacturer. Look's foray into the frame world started about 5 years after that and in time they developed a variety of carbon tubed and glued frames some good, some not so.
In France (and specifically the hometown of Nevers) they have been a massive success and along with compatriot frame company, Time, they have both established themselves in the high echelons of the professional peloton.
Look are pretty unique in the mass production of carbon frames, in that they own and control their factory and development processes. Yes there are many high end manufacturers that do this but very few mainstream brands can make carbon and develop themselves. This gives them a clear advantage, they can adapt to changes in material specification and also push production for quick response.
This brand new 2006 frame features lots of the benefits of Thor Hushovd's Tour de France green jersey winning 585. It features the same geometry and design but has an aluminium bottom bracket shell.
So Look have taken the basic chassis from the previous range topping 585 and cut a few corners to take the price down a bit. Using heavier raw material and an aluminium bottom bracket shell they have built a frame that for them is technically lower than their capabilities, but for most other manufacturers a frame that is pretty advanced. The added weight over the 585 is only 250g, so not exactly loads heavier.
IMG style=MARGIN-RIGHT: 10px height=188 alt=565 src= http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/image ... 30_sml.jpg>
Progressive Sloping Geometry Evolusize Geometry: A bit of a gob full but basically a steeper slope is used for smaller frame sizes and is decreased proportionally with the frame size, so as you go up the sizes the bike gets proportionally more sensible looking, I like this approach as you don't end up with acres of seat post showing and a saddle to bar drop that would make a pro rider's back ache. Up front there's a Look Patented Integral Headset, which includes two interchangeable bearing surfaces inside the head tube, no trouble here and they seem to have managed to build a mighty solid steering ensemble, unlike many integrated efforts we've seen. Double Curve: The wishbone is curved twice giving great lateral strength whilst maintaining some vertical flexibility for comfort. And this isn't new either but it's a tried and tested design and actually works - Look have also made it look good too.
IMG style=MARGIN-LEFT: 10px height=240 alt=565 src= http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/image ... 31_sml.jpg>
ComponentsLook started producing aftermarket forks early on in the carbon game. Carbon forks can be a minefield and care with maintenance and installation of lightweight carbon parts is paramount. What I like about Look's HSC series forks is that they are over-built yet still lightweight and feature a failsafe insert in the fork crown, a design that would (in the very unlikely event of a crack) prevent total failure and a nasty face plant. Look forks also ride well and the front end of this bike is solid, make no mistake.
A full Dura Ace 10 speed group is nothing short of faultless. Instant response shifts and although the front shift is indexed (I really have never understood why…) the chain pick up and response is excellent. It's the best looking and functioning Dura Ace gruppo to date. I like it very much indeed.
Braking has much improved for Shimano too and there's an obvious step up in control.
Deda 215 style ITM bars with a shallow drop, at last a test bike with a decent set of handlebars… I couldn't believe my luck.
Mavic Kysium SL's are a great wheelset and these SSC versions were shod with Conti's GP4000 - an excellent wheel package.
IMG style=MARGIN-RIGHT: 10px height=150 alt= 565 src= http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/image ... 35_sml.jpg>
The RideWith the set up already 'in house style' we were straight at home on the 565. It's rare that a test bike feels this way immediately and although we had fettled a little with the saddle and bar angle it was all pretty good for me. It looked right and often that is a good sign. Geometry is compact and the 53cm we tested comes with a 54.5mm top tube, normally I'd have to compromise to get the bar set up right but the 565 was perfect in this regard. It was like it was made for me.
Out on the road the predictable damping qualities of carbon are immediately apparent. It's soft and soaks up rough roads with ease. The geometry is tight yet but not too 'skippy' and it's the kind of bike that feels immediately familiar. It's a hackneyed saying but it's stiff and responsive and jumps up the road when you stamp on the pedals - completely reliable and predictable. Ride and race all day on this fella, no problems.
RCUK Verdict
To match or better the ride qualities of the 565 elsewhere in the market you'll have to spend a lot more money, twice as much perhaps. So it scores high on value for this reason alone. The geometry is perfect (for me) and the riding position comfortable and sorted. This frame is a well kept secret, it's way better than any previous Look frames I've ridden. However the 565 just lacks a little sparkle, something that Look say you get with the big brother of this bike - the lighter and more flighty 585. If they're right, then I can't wait to have a go on one, should be good.
It's purely emotional, but graphically and style-wise the 565 falls a bit short for me. I didn't like this colour scheme much, but some will. The 'fat wrap' carbon weave is essentially aesthetic but is a nice departure from old-skool carbon frames. The raw carbon finish or the white one will certainly look more like it. So perhaps there's something in the name that makes it a bit soul-less perhaps? However although Look bikes may struggle sometimes with character and identity they certainly do not with quality and function. The 565 is a good buy.
Predictable ride, stable and yet still quite racey good fit
Predictable ride, can be a bit 'flat' and it's a bit dull to look at
http://www.veltec.nl/DesktopModules/Por ... ant500.jpg
http://www.cbike.com/look_565.htm
The all new LOOK 565 frame is a revolutionary new frame that is a direct descendent of the Award winning 585 frame. This frame has the same tubes, same global shape but the bottom bracket is aluminium. The 565 is both comfortable and very responsive and at an amazing frame weight of just 1200 grams and the fork is the ultra-light HSC5Sl weighing in at an incredible 295grs! Total weight for this frame and fork is just 1495 grams, two colour options are available on this frame white or chrome titanium that is finished in an amazing long weave finish.
Adviesprijs van 1999€, al gezien voor 1399€
TESTED: Look 565By Guy Andrews
In 1985 Look invented and developed the first useful step-in-step-out pedal system. Clipless pedals (because they were without toe clips) were a massive leap forward and Look's ingenuity really put them on the map as a cycling manufacturer. Look's foray into the frame world started about 5 years after that and in time they developed a variety of carbon tubed and glued frames some good, some not so.
In France (and specifically the hometown of Nevers) they have been a massive success and along with compatriot frame company, Time, they have both established themselves in the high echelons of the professional peloton.
Look are pretty unique in the mass production of carbon frames, in that they own and control their factory and development processes. Yes there are many high end manufacturers that do this but very few mainstream brands can make carbon and develop themselves. This gives them a clear advantage, they can adapt to changes in material specification and also push production for quick response.
This brand new 2006 frame features lots of the benefits of Thor Hushovd's Tour de France green jersey winning 585. It features the same geometry and design but has an aluminium bottom bracket shell.
So Look have taken the basic chassis from the previous range topping 585 and cut a few corners to take the price down a bit. Using heavier raw material and an aluminium bottom bracket shell they have built a frame that for them is technically lower than their capabilities, but for most other manufacturers a frame that is pretty advanced. The added weight over the 585 is only 250g, so not exactly loads heavier.
IMG style=MARGIN-RIGHT: 10px height=188 alt=565 src= http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/image ... 30_sml.jpg>
Progressive Sloping Geometry Evolusize Geometry: A bit of a gob full but basically a steeper slope is used for smaller frame sizes and is decreased proportionally with the frame size, so as you go up the sizes the bike gets proportionally more sensible looking, I like this approach as you don't end up with acres of seat post showing and a saddle to bar drop that would make a pro rider's back ache. Up front there's a Look Patented Integral Headset, which includes two interchangeable bearing surfaces inside the head tube, no trouble here and they seem to have managed to build a mighty solid steering ensemble, unlike many integrated efforts we've seen. Double Curve: The wishbone is curved twice giving great lateral strength whilst maintaining some vertical flexibility for comfort. And this isn't new either but it's a tried and tested design and actually works - Look have also made it look good too.
IMG style=MARGIN-LEFT: 10px height=240 alt=565 src= http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/image ... 31_sml.jpg>
ComponentsLook started producing aftermarket forks early on in the carbon game. Carbon forks can be a minefield and care with maintenance and installation of lightweight carbon parts is paramount. What I like about Look's HSC series forks is that they are over-built yet still lightweight and feature a failsafe insert in the fork crown, a design that would (in the very unlikely event of a crack) prevent total failure and a nasty face plant. Look forks also ride well and the front end of this bike is solid, make no mistake.
A full Dura Ace 10 speed group is nothing short of faultless. Instant response shifts and although the front shift is indexed (I really have never understood why…) the chain pick up and response is excellent. It's the best looking and functioning Dura Ace gruppo to date. I like it very much indeed.
Braking has much improved for Shimano too and there's an obvious step up in control.
Deda 215 style ITM bars with a shallow drop, at last a test bike with a decent set of handlebars… I couldn't believe my luck.
Mavic Kysium SL's are a great wheelset and these SSC versions were shod with Conti's GP4000 - an excellent wheel package.
IMG style=MARGIN-RIGHT: 10px height=150 alt= 565 src= http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/image ... 35_sml.jpg>
The RideWith the set up already 'in house style' we were straight at home on the 565. It's rare that a test bike feels this way immediately and although we had fettled a little with the saddle and bar angle it was all pretty good for me. It looked right and often that is a good sign. Geometry is compact and the 53cm we tested comes with a 54.5mm top tube, normally I'd have to compromise to get the bar set up right but the 565 was perfect in this regard. It was like it was made for me.
Out on the road the predictable damping qualities of carbon are immediately apparent. It's soft and soaks up rough roads with ease. The geometry is tight yet but not too 'skippy' and it's the kind of bike that feels immediately familiar. It's a hackneyed saying but it's stiff and responsive and jumps up the road when you stamp on the pedals - completely reliable and predictable. Ride and race all day on this fella, no problems.
RCUK Verdict
To match or better the ride qualities of the 565 elsewhere in the market you'll have to spend a lot more money, twice as much perhaps. So it scores high on value for this reason alone. The geometry is perfect (for me) and the riding position comfortable and sorted. This frame is a well kept secret, it's way better than any previous Look frames I've ridden. However the 565 just lacks a little sparkle, something that Look say you get with the big brother of this bike - the lighter and more flighty 585. If they're right, then I can't wait to have a go on one, should be good.
It's purely emotional, but graphically and style-wise the 565 falls a bit short for me. I didn't like this colour scheme much, but some will. The 'fat wrap' carbon weave is essentially aesthetic but is a nice departure from old-skool carbon frames. The raw carbon finish or the white one will certainly look more like it. So perhaps there's something in the name that makes it a bit soul-less perhaps? However although Look bikes may struggle sometimes with character and identity they certainly do not with quality and function. The 565 is a good buy.
Predictable ride, stable and yet still quite racey good fit
Predictable ride, can be a bit 'flat' and it's a bit dull to look at
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look_kg361
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Begin dit jaar een 565 besteld in Duitsland omdat Veltec geen 565 kon leveren, zelfs een speciale witte uitvoering die een extra extra levertijd van 6 had is na drie maanden geleverd.
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look_kg361
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Ja inderdaad dezelfde als hierboven
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look_kg361
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Een framebouwer van naam en faam en die ook nog eens mooie designs maakt, voorbeeld hiervan is ondermeer de KG486 in rood/zilver. Ook bij dit frame hier boven word de merknaam/type met stijl weergegeven. Andere kant ook klassiek frame door geen extreme diameters en/of vormgeving van de buizen, hiervoor is de KG486 weer een staaltje van kunst. Maar dit moois heeft wel als resultaat dat de prijs navenant is, wel is het zo dat dit allemaal handwerk is.