HAHAHA!!
Hieronder de reactie van de verkoper van de laatste door Jaap gespotte nep-pinarello op mijn ietwat te lage bod...
What a fuck... ! Caralho,fodasse ! Next time not give a stupid bod than ! Just keep quiet,ok? I just say before : i don't need your less money,why you text this mail? No worry,i waycup just a litle fucking stress,i don't have fucking kids,i doet what i want,i don't want losse my time with you,capisse? I wish sucess for you ! J.Devil
Het Grote Imitatietopic (frames en onderdelen)
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Jaap Telder
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Jaap Telder
17 jun 2016 07:53
En er wordt al over de €1000,- geboden op het nep frameset.
Kan je op Aliexpress twee nieuwe nepperds voor kopen
Als je er in trapt wordt je flink belazerd...
Kan je op Aliexpress twee nieuwe nepperds voor kopen
Als je er in trapt wordt je flink belazerd...
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Fietsen?altijd
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Ik heb m toen u hem poste ook meteen gerapporteerd.
Maak joe woar
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Jaap Telder
17 jun 2016 13:42
Off topic:
hoop ik voor jou en mij nooit mee te maken met no name Chinees carbon.
... "my factory said you already used the fork about 1 year" - apparently, these have a 'best before' date"....
16-06-2016:
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/bikes- ... 68-23.html
Here's a review of an incident with my piece of Chinese carbon:
Bought this last summer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Thru-Ax...-/221626684235
put the new bike (frame came from elsewhere) together some time later, rode if for a little bit before the cold, stored inside for winter, took out again in April, and with less than 1000km on it, both fork blades snapped in half under braking (on smooth pavement, slow speed): http://imgur.com/a/Uno5Q (taking the front rim and one of the shifters with it). Fortunately, it was as safe a place as could be for a crash like this so I myself came a way with just a slight scare and no bodily harm.
I'm 80kg or less in weight, do not do stoppies or drops and am generally gentle with my bike so this accident was deemed unacceptable and something was expected from the merchant.
They first offered a replacement but I didn't want the same fork for obvious reasons, then their QR model which I didn't want either (converted 3 wheelsets to thru-axle, wanted to stick with it) and then $50 because (I quote verbatim) "my factory said you already used the fork about 1 year" - apparently, these have a 'best before' date. I explicitly asked for a full refund, got offered $80 after a few days and took it.
For comparison, cost of purchase was $120 (fork) + 40 (shipping) + 20 (axle) but I couldn't find a way to escalate this and make use of ebay's problem resolution facilities so I figured that with no real leverage, haggling further might be counterproductive.
The new fork (a little heavier, so hopefully sturdier) cost me less than this one ($110 with axle, actually - direct from factory) so that helped cut the losses a bit.
Bottom line: if you deal with velocarbon@ebay and/or Miraclebike, do not expect much customer service should anything happen to your purchase. Better yet, shop elsewhere - there's no shortage of carbon vendors from China and Taiwan and some have better reputation than others.
On the bright side, the seller I bought the rim from sent me a replacement with no questions asked (he just needed to see the S/N after I asked him if this could _theoretically_ be considered a warranty issue) despite the breakage not being the rim's fault at all and the warranty period being actually over (it's 1 year). All this only because I brought 2 other customers to him and we bought 6 rims between us - and they aren't even expensive ones. Velocarbon have a thing or two to learn from this man.
Can post links to the shops where I got the rim and new fork from if anyone asks.
Stay safe, and may none of you ever hear your fork snap underneath you
hoop ik voor jou en mij nooit mee te maken met no name Chinees carbon.
... "my factory said you already used the fork about 1 year" - apparently, these have a 'best before' date"....
16-06-2016:
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/bikes- ... 68-23.html
Here's a review of an incident with my piece of Chinese carbon:
Bought this last summer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Thru-Ax...-/221626684235
put the new bike (frame came from elsewhere) together some time later, rode if for a little bit before the cold, stored inside for winter, took out again in April, and with less than 1000km on it, both fork blades snapped in half under braking (on smooth pavement, slow speed): http://imgur.com/a/Uno5Q (taking the front rim and one of the shifters with it). Fortunately, it was as safe a place as could be for a crash like this so I myself came a way with just a slight scare and no bodily harm.
I'm 80kg or less in weight, do not do stoppies or drops and am generally gentle with my bike so this accident was deemed unacceptable and something was expected from the merchant.
They first offered a replacement but I didn't want the same fork for obvious reasons, then their QR model which I didn't want either (converted 3 wheelsets to thru-axle, wanted to stick with it) and then $50 because (I quote verbatim) "my factory said you already used the fork about 1 year" - apparently, these have a 'best before' date. I explicitly asked for a full refund, got offered $80 after a few days and took it.
For comparison, cost of purchase was $120 (fork) + 40 (shipping) + 20 (axle) but I couldn't find a way to escalate this and make use of ebay's problem resolution facilities so I figured that with no real leverage, haggling further might be counterproductive.
The new fork (a little heavier, so hopefully sturdier) cost me less than this one ($110 with axle, actually - direct from factory) so that helped cut the losses a bit.
Bottom line: if you deal with velocarbon@ebay and/or Miraclebike, do not expect much customer service should anything happen to your purchase. Better yet, shop elsewhere - there's no shortage of carbon vendors from China and Taiwan and some have better reputation than others.
On the bright side, the seller I bought the rim from sent me a replacement with no questions asked (he just needed to see the S/N after I asked him if this could _theoretically_ be considered a warranty issue) despite the breakage not being the rim's fault at all and the warranty period being actually over (it's 1 year). All this only because I brought 2 other customers to him and we bought 6 rims between us - and they aren't even expensive ones. Velocarbon have a thing or two to learn from this man.
Can post links to the shops where I got the rim and new fork from if anyone asks.
Stay safe, and may none of you ever hear your fork snap underneath you
Zorro
17 jun 2016 16:27
Ik vraag me dan toch wel af hoe die band van de velg af kan zijn of was er toch wat meer aan de hand?
We thought that we had the answers
It was the questions we had wrong
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It was the questions we had wrong
U2-11 O'Clock Tick Tock
arnolddew
17 jun 2016 16:43
Kan raar gaan lijkt mij als je voorvork zo afbreekt. Zelfs met lage snelheid.Zorro schreef:Ik vraag me dan toch wel af hoe die band van de velg af kan zijn of was er toch wat meer aan de hand?
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Wolfhound32
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Wolfhound32
17 jun 2016 17:53
Viel mij ook al op. Wat een perfecte breuk. Nooit eerder gezien.
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Jarig zijn is gezond! Onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat mensen die vaker jarig zijn, langer leven.
Jarig zijn is gezond! Onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat mensen die vaker jarig zijn, langer leven.
