Op je homotrainer op zolder....Ikon schreef:Wat zijn geen echte kilometers dan ?
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- Wolfhound32
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Wat ik ook erg discutabel vind is dat Strava hoogtemeters toekent aan taxc-ritjes.
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Jarig zijn is gezond! Onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat mensen die vaker jarig zijn, langer leven.
Ik vind het altijd een lastige discussie, mag je tacx ritten wel of niet meetellen? Ik volg genoeg stravisten die ze gewoon op dezelfde "bult" gooien als weg kilometers. Terwijl een tacx training domweg geen rit is. Een rit is je verplaatsen van punt a naar punt B. Op een tacx blijf je altijd op dezelfde plaats. Omdat je je niet verplaatst maak je ook geen snelheid. Toch word een tacx rit op zijn "virtuele" snelheid gewaardeerd. Hoogtemeters idem dito. Op een tacx hoef je niet te balanceren en niet te sturen en je hoeft geen luchtweerstand te overwinnen. Veroordeel ik tacxen? Nee natuurlijk niet. Het kan een uiterst effectieve manier van trainen zijn. Of iemand zijn tacxritten als "echte" fietsritten registreert moet hij zelf weten. Ik heb er geen last van
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Lekker 40 km/uur op de Tacx of 20 km/uur tegen de wind in beuken. Voor mij zijn de wegkilometers 'echt' als het gaat om afgelegde afstand. Ik heb enige coulance met iemand die hetzelfde gemiddelde rijdt op een Tacx als op de weg, hoewel je natuurlijk elk effect van de elementen mist op een Tacx (of welke stationaire trainer dan ook).
Maar mijn excuses, dit is off-topic
Maar mijn excuses, dit is off-topic
Weer of geen weer....één van twee is er altijd
Hmm, mijn Tacx Neo kilometers voelen echt wel even zwaar als buiten (koud weer/regen buiten beschouwing gelaten). Ligt er wel aan welke software je gebruikt natuurlijk. Met de TTS4 software icm met een RLV voelt het wel echt aan (inkl kasseien, ruwe weg enz), en heb ik 2x virtueel de Mt Ventoux op fereden als voorbereiding op echte werk, daar zat bijzonder weinig afwijking in (virtueel 2:15 en 1:58h, echt 2:00:38).
En in Zwift klopt het ook bijhoorlijk goed, vooral bergop, mits je je echte gewicht opgeeft.
Ik upload ze ook naar Strava, maar dan bij equipment wel de Tacx Neo gezet, daardoor heb ik toch een overzicht van de 'echte' en virtuele ritten.
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En in Zwift klopt het ook bijhoorlijk goed, vooral bergop, mits je je echte gewicht opgeeft.
Ik upload ze ook naar Strava, maar dan bij equipment wel de Tacx Neo gezet, daardoor heb ik toch een overzicht van de 'echte' en virtuele ritten.
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Bij mij zaten er wel Tacx(Zwift ) ritten bij,die mij in de meeste gevallen zwaarder vallen als mijn buiten ritten,maar goed ik heb mezelf verwijderd uit de lijst en zal niet meer aan deze topic deelnemen
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Da's nergens voor nodig Rob. Je hebt namelijk wel degelijk buiten kilometers gemaakt. Die horen in dit topic. De Tacx-kilometers hebben alleen een eigentopic.
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Jarig zijn is gezond! Onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat mensen die vaker jarig zijn, langer leven.
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Ach ik fiets voor de lol en zo zie ik dit forum ook,en wat ik zeg fietsen op Zwift is in mijn beleving in de meeste gevallen zwaarder als km op de weg maken .Wolfhound32 schreef:Da's nergens voor nodig Rob. Je hebt namelijk wel degelijk buiten kilometers gemaakt. Die horen in dit topic. De Tacx-kilometers hebben alleen een eigentopic.
Op Zwift profiteer ik ook niet van heuveltje af of windje in de rug of een lekker fris windje tegen de warmte,maar goed de mensen die tegen zijn rijden zelf niet op z'n ding denk ik,ik vind het goed zo.
Cijfertjes zeggen mij toch al weinig,het gaat mij om de beleving van het bezig zijn op en met de fiets.
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